SS-Totenkopfverbände Officers - Page 5 (2024)

Hello again,

A long week is coming to it´s end, and I have been doeing some really fun research this week, and hopefully
I will get some nice info next week. But until then I really need birthdate and if possible deathdate of following
SS-TV officers (that means that they didn´t have to serve in a camp after 16 oct. 1939)

DoB:
Carl Weiss (+ DoD)
Ernst Wagner (+ DoD)
Rudolf Wahl (+ DoD)
Eduard Weber (+ DoD)
Dr Hermann Welser (+ DoD)

DoD
Georg Wolf
Dr Helmuth Wolf
Leopold Wolfmeyer
Sebastian Wimmer
Hans Weibrecht
Dr Heinz Wertschützky
Johann Vogl
Josef Wameser

Thanks in advance

Georg

Ps. I have checked the Volksbund

Fred wrote:

Krause, Herbert
Born: 09.09.1909 in Aachen
Waffen-Geb.Brig.(tart.1): 08.1944
Kaukasischer Waffenverband der SS: 01.1945
For the 01.1945 date, John P. Moore’s "Führerliste" has Ostturk.Waffenverb. The SS-Personalveränderungsblatt dated 30.01.1945 has Kaukasischer Waffenverband der SS.

I don't know for sure of course because I'm now expert but I've found info that the Waffen-Geb.-Brig.der SS(tatar Nr. 1) became SS-Waffengruppe 'Krim' at a certain time and in 12-44 this unit was transfered to the Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS and as far as I can tell this was a total different unit then the Kaukasischer Waffen-Verband der SS. So I think the info from J. Moore is correct....

Mike

Hello,

I wonder if someone can help me with following officer.

SS-Ostuf Kurt Hermann
Served at TV Oberbayern in 37 (SS-DAL)
Born: 2.5.06
SS-Nr: 27978
NSDAP: 44951 (Early member) most probably holder of the Goldene Partei Abz,
SS-Ostuf on 20.4.37

In Moores Casualitylist you have a SS-Ostuf Hermann KIA between 18-20/10, 1941 as Fhr over the
2./SS-T.I.R.1

Is this the same man as I have in "Oberbayern"?

Can someone give me exakt deathdate of him, and if probably the town in which he was born.
If someone also knows his exakt service at the Oberbayern it would be much appriciated. Help with what he did between Oberbayern and his service at SS-T.I.R.1 is also welcome, he didn´t serve at Oberbayern in Nov. 38 when he doesn´t appear on the Führerstellungsbesetzung over that Standarte then.

Best regards,
Georg

Ps. Noone who can help me with my previous post?

Georg wrote:I really need birthdate and if possible deathdate of following
SS-TV officers (that means that they didn´t have to serve in a camp after 16 oct. 1939)
DoB:
Carl Weiss (+ DoD)
Ernst Wagner (+ DoD)
Rudolf Wahl (+ DoD)
Eduard Weber (+ DoD)
Dr Hermann Welser (+ DoD)

Hello Georg,
SS-Hstuf. Carl Weiß (SS Nr.: 292 537) - geb. 15.03.1907 in München
SS-Hstuf. Ernst Wagner (SS Nr.: 286 899) - geb. 19.09.1916 in Angerod / Alsfeld
SS-Stubaf. Eduard Weber (SS Nr.: 276 414) - geb. 16.07.1911 in Krems / Donau
SS-Ostubaf. Dr Hermann Welser (SS Nr.: 270 334) - geb. 03.10.1890 in Salzburg

Georg wrote:I wonder if someone can help me with following officer.
SS-Ostuf Kurt Hermann
Served at TV Oberbayern in 37 (SS-DAL)
Born: 2.5.06

I'm afraid you have mis-read Kurt Hermann's the name in the 1937 SS-DAL. It reads Kurt Heymann (geb. 02.05.1906). His NSDAP Nr. was 44 951 and SS Nr. was 278 978 (not 27 978) and he served with 1.SS-T.V.Oberbayern. He doesn't appear in any SS-DAL before or after 01.12.1937. There is a Kurt Herrmann in that SS-DAL, but he wasn't an SS-T.V. officer (he was with 60.SS-Standarte); geb. 14.11.1910, SS Nr.: 52 312.

Georg wrote:In Moores Casualitylist you have a SS-Ostuf Hermann KIA between 18-20/10, 1941 as Fhr over the
2./SS-T.I.R.1

SS-Obersturmführer Alexander Herrmann (geb. 21.08.1916; SS Nr. 122 211) was the officer KIA 20.10.1941 (he was Chef,2./T.I.R.1).

- Fred

freddiefro wrote:Hello Georg,

Wilhelm Fichtinger was born in München. His SS Nr. is 96 151 (not 95 151).
SS-Ostuf.: 11.09.1938; SS-Hstuf.: 30.01.1940
I have him with 1.Kosacken-Kav.Div. in Feb.1945

- Fred

b. HSSPF Rußland-Mitte (10.43) → b. HSSPF Ostland

Max Williams wrote:In answer to some of the questions raised here about the doctor photo……
People are writing off the photo as fake based on the writing on the reverse. This is a mistake. The handwriting on the reverse is written in the third person and is obviously a subsequently added description of the item. It is likely that the writing on front was made by a different hand than that on the reverse. So, it is quite possible that the photo was signed by the doctor and the description was subsequently written by someone else. Therefore there is no correlation between the signature on the front and any errors on the reverse.
The use of the letter S…..my 76 year old mother-in-law still reads and sometimes uses Sütterlin script. She states it was not uncommon for people to use this form of “s”, so it is wrong to read too much into this.
The stamp on the reverse (probably an archival stamp) is an obvious post-war addition and one that I have seen several times on genuine material. This however does not indicate authenticity as it is easily copied.
The dot after the title “Dr.” is there on the front of the photo and it is this signature which should be assessed, not the handwriting on the reverse.
It is certainly also not uncommon for a doctor to sign a portrait photo as this was a very common form of a gift for the time. I have seen many.
Tilman’s suggestion to advise the Dachau museum authorities that you think it is fake, is definitely the wrong thing to do. Their research should be “cold” otherwise you could end up with a biased opinion. You should not plant seeds of doubt from the outset.
It is also possible that the doctor served at the large SS barracks and had nothing to do with the KL. Any SS man in Dachau has often been assumed to have served at the camp and this is not always the case. The same applies to Weimar-Buchenwald, etc.
There are numerous men who served in the KL system and whose identities have remained anonymous, even to post-war museum authorities. Therefore, any response from Dachau should be treated as corroboration, but not definitive. A few years ago, at the Bundesarchiv, I met a couple of historical researchers from the staff at Dachau KL museum. I was amazed at their lack of finite specialist knowledge.
Finally, I should say that I do not know if it is genuine or fake. The only correct and true method of authentication is to physically examine a piece. This photo intrigued me and for such a small outlay I decided to research it further and buy it. If, when it arrives, I discover it is fake, then I will not have lost much and I will have had some enjoyment researching it. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a genuine item, then it’s a bargain.
Max.

I have found an Dr Fischer now, who before his service in KL Auschwitz actually served in KL Dachau, Oranienburg (Sachsenhausen) SS-San.Ers.Abt. He was one of the last to be beheaded by DDR in 66 (Guiljotine) a rather faschinating figure.

//Georg

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